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    The Angel of God

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    Post  The Angel of God on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:06 am

    You're right. I already got my wallet knicked and MP3 player stolen on my last drinking bout.

    Lesson learned, hopefully.  

    I think if you are sober and working and stuff, you shouldn't have any big problems.  If you are out drinking, it gets dangerous real fast.  And you're right, don't trust people just because they are westerners either.  The neihborhood I'm in is all muslim, and it's pretty safe, but if you go 100 meters it turns back into hookerland.

    I'm getting the F out of here in about 12 hours. Phew!

    I shouldn't breath any sigh of relief, cuz who knows what kind of f-ed up world I'm gonna be in next.

    That hotel I booked is in a crazy expat area too, and it's non-refundable. So that's that.

    After that I will book somewhere nice and peaceful.

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    Post  The Great Splendini on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:08 am

    I met a Thai woman who had a house built for the equivalent of 40,000 USD. For them, it's a lot of money. But also, it was in the boonies, not near Bangkok. But still, as a retirement option it beats these insane real estate prices here and it's something to consider. I should be able to scrape up 40K, but not 500K.

    I think the authorities have flirted with getting rid of the sex industry, but I doubt it. It's been there since the 70s I think.



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    Post  The Angel of God on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:10 am

    I think you can buy an existing villa or apartment right in metropolitan Bangkok for far less than that.

    Unless you want a big, extravagant house for kids and stuff.  Then, yeah, I could see how it go that high for a new building.

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    Post  The Great Splendini on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:17 am

    no, 500K is a house back home.

    in Bangkok, not sure.

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    Post  The Angel of God on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:17 am

    Hell, I could set you up with a brand-new large cabin w/ everything in Maine on a large beautiful property for less than 40k.

    Good luck finding a f-ing job though. Rolling Eyes

    Well, you might still be able to find some low-paying shit, which wouldn't be all that bad if you owned your house outright.
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    Post  The Angel of God on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:22 am

    If I had money, that's what I'd do. Summer in Maine and winter in Thailand.

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    Post  The Great Splendini on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:29 am

    yep, i've been wanting a log cabin too.

    and i'd like to get the hell out of here during the winter too.

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    Post  The Angel of God on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:42 am

    Log cabins are considerably more expensive.  Go with stick-built.  



    You see the price tag on that one, $7,500 or thereabouts, which includes delivery.  There's also a discount involved.  You can order to spec, with a proper front door, windows, whatever you want.

    Some companies will also do the insulation and flooring for you (costs that much more obviously.)

    You still have electric, well, and sewage to handle.  And you gotta buy the land. You should *probably* do a slab too, but you can put on posts to save money. It will still last if you take care of it. Just underlay it with gravel, and it is fine on posts.

    But still, $40k USD it is more than doable.  Particularly if you do the work yourself.  I would not suggesting building it and roofing it yourself.  But the insulation, flooring, and drywall is all very doable with a bit of study.

    For septic, you can go cheap with a $500 plastic tank.  You will need to hire a backhoe to excavate it for you.

    The well will be $3k or high depending on how deep they need to go.  Or just put it near a stream and draw from that, and purify your drinking water with a Brita or something.  In fact, in Maine many streams are safe to drink from directly -as long as it's rocky and not all algae and muck and shit.


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    Post  The Great Splendini on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:43 am

    here's a good read...and another point in favor of NOT moving there... (sorry)

    Thailand rolls out ‘intrusive’ immigration form nationwide to help ‘catch foreigners faster’
    https://asiancorrespondent.com/2016/06/thailand-intrusive-immigration-form/

    Among the information the form asks “aliens” to submit are:

    Full names of father and mother
    Full address and telephone numbers in home country
    Social media accounts and email address (optional)
    Make of car/motorcycle, as well as its model, color, and license plate number
    Frequently visited places such as clubs, restaurants, shops, hospital
    Bank account details such as bank, branch, account name and account number (only required for certain visas)

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    Post  RobertBlack on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:43 am

    Sciency, you could go undercover in one of the jails, then write a book about it.

    Guaranteed seller!

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    Post  RobertBlack on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:44 am

    You need to lose weight and give up drinking for a while too.
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    Post  RobertBlack on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:45 am

    No need for job, roof over your head, plenty of like minded friends...

    haha
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    Post  The Angel of God on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:46 am

    The Great Splendini wrote:here's a good read...and another point in favor of NOT moving there... (sorry)


    Among the information the form asks “aliens” to submit are:

    Full names of father and mother
    Full address and telephone numbers in home country
    Social media accounts and email address (optional)
    Make of car/motorcycle, as well as its model, color, and license plate number
    Frequently visited places such as clubs, restaurants, shops, hospital
    Bank account details such as bank, branch, account name and account number (only required for certain visas)


    That's how things are nowadays.  They wanted to know *everything* at the immigration office.  It will be this way for visas to all countries soon enough.

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    Post  The Great Splendini on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:47 am

    For housing, I did (a bit) of research on shipping containers.

    One guy was selling his shipping container home for about 50K.

    The inside was actually quite nice. The exterior can also be made nice.

    Advantages:
    - They are made of metal, so they are fire-proof
    - I think you can combine more shipping containers later to extend the house. Some homes are made of like 7 shipping containers combined together. So as the years go by, if you have more money, you can extend the home.



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    Post  The Great Splendini on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:49 am

    yeah, even immigration here has gotten much more strict.

    i'm way too relaxed at the airport. these people don't fuck around. but then again, a shitload of people are doing criminal activity.

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    Post  RobertBlack on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:50 am

    I lived in like this aluminium (I guess) square box once, at a camping ground.

    It was Ok, except when the sun shined it got incredibly hot inside.
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    Post  The Angel of God on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:51 am

    RobertBlack wrote:Sciency, you could go undercover in one of the jails, then write a book about it.

    Guaranteed seller!

    Razz

    Yeah, and what would I be writing it on, wall etchings?

    I've already lost quite a lot of weight here. I had to get a new belt because I went down too many notches on my old one. And the new one is has also gone down one notch and well on the way to the next. I'm still hefty enough, overweight but not obese like I got was in the range of for a while. This trend will continue, I think. I don't give a shit about food anymore. Some days I don't even bother to eat.


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    Post  The Great Splendini on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:52 am

    RobertBlack wrote:Sciency, you could go undercover in one of the jails, then write a book about it.

    Guaranteed seller!

    Razz

    Some guy in a jail in Japan wrote about his experience and I think they made a TV series.

    Sometimes going through a horrific experience can make you rich .... if it doesn't kill you first.

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    Post  RobertBlack on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:54 am

    Basically the good ol days of Asia are over.

    Jesus, I used to pay 600 rmb a month for a sweet apartment in Harbin.

    I paid 6 months in advance, then just worked when I wanted.

    Now, visa, work requirements, it's like apple picking, gone to shit.

    We need to find a new gig.

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    Post  The Angel of God on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:54 am

    RobertBlack wrote:I lived in like this aluminium (I guess) square box once, at a camping ground.

    It was Ok, except when the sun shined it got incredibly hot inside.

    For three years I camped half the year in a tent, and the other half (winter) in an off-season apartment. Summer prices are way too high because all the tourists, but cheap in the winter because everyone leaves.

    I kept a gigantic tarp over my tent wich provided shade. It was tied to trees, way up high with a ladder on four points. It also covered my picnic table, cooking area, and firepit, so nothing ever got wet. It would pouring rain, and I'd be outside cooking and drinking coffee beside a warm fire, and then go off to bed in a nice, warm, dry tent, with a comfy mattress and a propane heat stove -if I felt a bit chilly.


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    Post  The Angel of God on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:56 am

    RobertBlack wrote:Basically the good ol days of Asia are over.

    Jesus, I used to pay 600 rmb a month for a sweet apartment in Harbin.

    I paid 6 months in advance, then just worked when I wanted.

    Now, visa, work requirements, it's like apple picking, gone to shit.

    We need to find a new gig.


    Yeah, they're over. The demand for ESL is still huge, but the locals are controlling the industry very tightly, as well the govs and their visa policies.

    You can get a self-sponsored work visa here for 40k baht.

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    Post  The Great Splendini on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:58 am

    I had an ex-gf here.

    Her parents liked to spend more time at the campground than their own home.

    I'd rather have a fucking trailer and spend most time in the woods.

    In fact, what I'd really love is to buy a trailer and get a EU passport and spend a year traveling through Europe in it.

    Whoever came up with the term "trailer trash" is a capitalist. Because living in a trailer and camping is FUN!


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    Post  The Great Splendini on Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:59 am

    The Angel of God wrote:
    Yeah, they're over.  The demand for ESL is still huge, but the locals are controlling the industry very tightly, as well the govs and their visa policies.

    You can get a self-sponsored work visa here for 40k baht.

    I didn't know about that. That could be an interesting option.
    40K per year though? You have to make decent money to make it worthwhile.
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    Post  RobertBlack on Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:02 am

    When did you guys first arrive in China?
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    Post  The Angel of God on Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:04 am

    The Great Splendini wrote:
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    Yeah, they're over.  The demand for ESL is still huge, but the locals are controlling the industry very tightly, as well the govs and their visa policies.

    You can get a self-sponsored work visa here for 40k baht.

    I didn't know about that. That could be an interesting option.
    40K per year though? You have to make decent money to make it worthwhile.

    It's quasi-legal though, but people generally get away with it.  Technically, you could still get busted.

    But this isn't China, so probably not. Just show them you have work visa and you're good.

    You can even drive here on your home country's drivers license. Not that I'd want to drive in this clusterfuck. Plus it's left hand driving, which totally fucks me up. I would definitely hit something while learning.


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