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    The Great Splendini

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    Night Shift

    Post  The Great Splendini on Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:12 am

    Got a shit job.

    It's a night shift job.

    Beats being broke.

    Anyone here ever work the night shift on a regular basis?

    Is it bad for health? Impossible for the body to adjust?

    Does it fuck up the chance of any kind of normal waking life?


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    Re: Night Shift

    Post  The Great Splendini on Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:46 am

    when the lights go down in the cit-ey

    my new theme song.


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    Re: Night Shift

    Post  The Great Splendini on Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:05 am

    does it fuck up your circadian rhythms and shit?

    all the weirdos and vampires come out at night.


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    Re: Night Shift

    Post  The Great Splendini on Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:45 am

    I like being up til 3 or 4 am and sleeping til noon, but it seems 'abnormal' to stay up ALL night.


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    Re: Night Shift

    Post  Psioncy on Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:20 pm

    I mainly worked night jobs before going to China, doing dock work and logistics.  I prefer it.  In China I worked afternoon/evening.  In Thai over the last year I worked 4-9 PM most days give or take.  I naturally revert to a night schedule on my own anyway.  

    I don't see what difference it makes.  The night is better.  Daytime is blaring sun, activity, and traffic.

    Rush hours exist cuz everyone has to do everything together at the same time.  Go to work, each lunch, go on vacation.  It's a clusterfuck.  I live my life in the off times.  If a restaurant is always slammed at lunch and dinner, I go between those times and the like. Working weekends, holidays? NP. What do I need to go out on the weekend for? Just cuz most everyone else is? I can go to that same park/restaurant/club/activity on a weekday. Plus services are closed on the weekdays. How can anyone ever get to the bank when their working hours and days off are almost exactly the same as the bank's?

    I can adjust my schedule to anything.  I've lived alone so long, the time of day makes no difference to me.  I'm not thinking in terms of meal times and bed times and all that jazz.  Meal time is when I'm hungry.  Bed time is when I'm tired.

    You're lucky to get a shit job.  Here even the shit jobs are coveted, and you'll be expected to eat all kinds of shit to keep it.


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    Re: Night Shift

    Post  Psioncy on Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:31 pm

    The daytime is fine for sleeping if you can achieve darkness and quietude.

    I use earplugs as required.

    The thing that sucks about being a night person is that day people think nothing of waking you up in the middle of your sleep.  They'll fucking pound on your door and be irritated that you're groggy.  Unemployed as I am now I don't care, but at those hard-ass night jobs I used to work, I was dispening out a lot of "fuck yous" to people who couldn't understand the concept.

    People who've worked the same job with the same hours in the same place for decades.  I can't relate at all.


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    Re: Night Shift

    Post  Psioncy on Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:40 pm

    I'm completely untethered. I adjust my free time around my work schedule and that's it. Otherwise, nothing matters. There are so many people here who follow a strict routine like robots. Everything has its time and place. They'll even eat the same foods at the same time daily.

    Hell, I can wake up in the morning just as well as any other time of the day. I can get up at 4 AM and eat a pizza while I get slammed on vodka. Doesn't matter to me, so long as I ain't got other shit to do.

    Watching a movie at 7 AM is no different to me than watching one at 7 PM or any other time of the day.

    This business of routine and rules is for people with families, when you have to coordinate with others. The way I see is that I only have to coordinate with my work schedule. I'm living in permanent bachelorhood so other than that the rules don't apply to me. cheers


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    Re: Night Shift

    Post  Psioncy on Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:53 pm

    This is what I'm thinking, especially after this hurricane wreaked so much havoc here.

    They have these concrete fabric bunkers that can go up in like a day and are very cheap as shells.  There's no roof to worry about and insulation is a non-issue.  Horrific weather is not a problem so long as you're high enough.  

    So put that bunker down and spread gravel out so there's no lawn to mow.  Then run deep cycle batteries off of solar and be off grid.  Think about it, what do you really need the power company for if you live sane.  

    M'fkrs around here were running their supergenerators around the clock after Irma.  Why?  So they could use their central AC and dryers and shit.  Ridiculous.  

    Lighting (LED), air circulation, mini-fridge, and my PC are all I need power for.  Oven can run off propane.  

    I could easily live off solar panels.  No phone line either.  I'll go with mobile or satellite internet.  

    Really, I think the way people live here is ridiculous.  They spend a fortune at the supermarket on CRAP.  Dollar for dollar, you can eat very well here cheaper than other countries, except that no one does.  My neighbor spent $17,000 on a generator system for her house.  After Irma she ran it for three days, and had all her shit working full force.  But, christ, come on!  That's once or twice a decade you need that.  It would be cheaper to take the money she spent on the generator and fly off for exotic holidays at fine hotels at the first sign of a hurricane.


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    Re: Night Shift

    Post  The Great Splendini on Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:22 pm

    how did we get from night shift to generators?

    other issues:

    does it fuck with your body or what?

    i googled night shift and there was a shitload of articles about how it's related to all kinds of illnesess.

    but i find it hard to believe.

    maybe the powers that be don't want too many people breaking away from the zombie 9 to 5 routines, so they're making it seem much worse than it actually is?

    it's so much quieter at night. you can actually fucking THINK way more clearly.

    but again, i would prefer to call it quits at 3-4 am. those extra hours might be tough.
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    Re: Night Shift

    Post  Psioncy on Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:13 am

    You've moved and adjusted from opposite sides of the world, where day is night and night is day.  There's no difference. Humans are considered diurnal because we don't have the best night vision. Back before electrical lighting, most people didn't do much at night because it was completely dark.  That's not the case any more.  But even in prehistory people had fired and maintained night schedules, since most predatory animals are nocturnal.  The forest that seems so placid in daylight Humans are incredibly adaptable, able to adjust to almost any situation, climate, diet, schedule, etc.  People cling to routine, but some of us haven't known stability and needed to adapt and found we could.  You don't cross a desert in daylight.  In hot desert places people often go on night schedules and sleep off the brutal daylight under dark, insulated shade. Look at cats.  They are considered nocturnal.  I think it's true because I'm nocturnal and every night they come and visit me.  But they can be diurnal or whateverurnal, just sleeping whenever. Humans are the most adaptable life form because we can change our environment.  We can make light, heat, etc.  There are people who can free dive for five minutes with no equipment.  There are humans who live at very high altitudes, marshes, tundras, arctic conditions, etc.  Prior to the 19 and 20th Century tech boom, humans already inhabited the far corners of the Earth's surface.  Now we've got people living year round in Antarctica.  Granted that wouldn't work without tech, but besides the poles homo sapien has managed to survive everywhere on planet.  We can't live long underwater or in space with massive tech, but otherwise we're the numero uno most adaptable advanced species on the planet.  Adjusting to a night schedule? Anyone can do it. It's just that a lot of people have a mental block due to ingrained standards, clinging to familiarity. Not having much in the way of standards myself, to me it's child's play.


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    Re: Night Shift

    Post  Psioncy on Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:22 am

    A 24 hour society would do wonders for the economy. Rural America is so fkn boring. Everything shuts down completely for the night time, most cities too except for entertainment districts. All this is because we've been instilled with a perception that we must live on a day schedule and all do everything at the same time like a bunch of lemmings. Why? We could run shit 24 hours. The area I lived in Bangkok was sorta like that. It lulled a bit in the wee hours, like from 4-6 AM, but even then there was still plenty of activity.

    Here in Florida people were leaving the state for the hurricane, leaving in the morning like a bunch of lemmings and joining all the other lemmings at the same time and creating a traffic clusteerfuck. I drove from central FL to New England in no time because I did it at night when there was no traffic and I cruised at 80 mph nearly the whole way.


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    Re: Night Shift

    Post  Psioncy on Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:23 am

    A 24 hour society would double the economy... overnight. (pun inherent.)


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    Re: Night Shift

    Post  The Great Splendini on Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:58 am

    yeah, i just saw 4 cats on my walk home as it got dark.

    ok, if you say so.

    i read that some ancestors anyway split up their schedules. they didn't sleep 8 hours straight. they slept 8 hours within a 24 hour period, but maybe split it up into 2 4-hour naps, sleeping only partly at night.

    or something.

    so if it's not harmful to the body, why all the negative doom and gloom medical articles about how it's associated to death? conspiracy to keep everyone in the 9 to 5 routine?

    the economy wouldn't double because half the day time people wouldn't be doing anything during the day.

    also, one thing that makes the night cool is the quietness. if there were too many people up at night, it wouldn't be the same.

    i think i could actually get some creative shit done at night. but most of the fucking jobs i've had have required me to wake up really early.




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